I took a little wander through the list of Conservative MP's and while I didn't examine them all, here are a few that were either born outside the country or lived and/or worked outside our borders.
Rona Ambrose
Tony Clement
Jim Flaherty
Nina Grewal
Jason Kenney
Peter Kent
Deepak Obhrai
Lisa Raitt
Devinder Shory
Vic Toews
Alice Wong
Let's hope none of these people have higher political aspirations than being an MP.
Wherry has another list here.
Jim Flaherty
Nina Grewal
Jason Kenney
Peter Kent
Deepak Obhrai
Lisa Raitt
Devinder Shory
Vic Toews
Alice Wong
Let's hope none of these people have higher political aspirations than being an MP.
Wherry has another list here.
Tony Clement was born in England.
ReplyDeleteThx. I added him to the list, though I have to say that I didn't go through each and every MP, so I'm sure there are more that I have missed.
ReplyDeleteFrum can never be PM.
ReplyDeleteConrad Black can never be PM.
Alas.
uhmmm.....
ReplyDeleteAnd your point?
(Born outside of Canada)
Karygiannis, Jim
Liberal Party of Canada
Greece
Volpe, Giuseppe (Joseph)
Liberal Party of Canada
Italy
Cannis, John
Liberal Party of Canada
Greece
Fry, Hedy
Liberal Party of Canada
Trinidad
Martin, Keith P.
Reform Party
England
Ablonczy, Diane
Reform Party
United States
Davies, Libby
New Democratic Party
England
Minna, Maria
Liberal Party of Canada
Italy
Obhrai, Deepak
Reform Party
Tanzania
Toews, Vic
Canadian Reform Conservative Alliance
Paraguay
Bevilacqua, Maurizio
Liberal Party of Canada
Italy
Dosanjh, Ujjal
Liberal Party of Canada
India
Folco, Raymonde
Liberal Party of Canada
France
Grewal, Nina
Conservative Party of Canada
Japan
Guarnieri, Albina
Liberal Party of Canada
Italy
Malhi, Gurbax Singh
Liberal Party of Canada
India
Martin, Tony
New Democratic
Ireland
Ratansi, Yasmin
Liberal Party of Canada
Tanzania
Rodriguez, Pablo
Liberal Party of Canada
Argentina
Savage, Michael John
Liberal Party of Canada
Northern Ireland
Silva, Mario
Liberal Party of Canada
Portugal
Stoffer, Peter Arend
New Democratic Party
Netherlands
Fletcher, Steven John
Conservative Party of Canada
Brazil
Mark, Inky
Conservative Party of Canada
China
Charlton, Chris
New Democratic Party
Germany
Chow, Olivia
New Democratic
China
Clement, Tony
Conservative Party of Canada
England
Dhaliwal, Sukh
Liberal Party of Canada
India
Mourani, Maria
Bloc Québécois
Ivory Coast
Petit, Daniel
Conservative Party of Canada
Belgium
Thi Lac, Ève-Mary Thaï
Bloc Québécois
Vietnam
Murray, Joyce
Liberal Party of Canada
South Africa
Allen, Malcolm
New Democratic Party
Scotland
Hyer, Bruce
New Democratic
United States
Kent, Peter
Conservative Party of Canada
England
Mendes, Alexandra
Liberal Party of Canada
Portugal
Shory, Devinder
Conservative Party of Canada
India
Wong, Alice
Conservative Party of Canada
Hong Kong
Without context about each individual, your little post is rather meaningless don't you think?
Cwtf, the point is that the new Conservative ads suggest that Ignatieff isn't worthy of being PM because he spent time outside of the country.
ReplyDeleteI have no problem with it and I have no problem with MP's hailing from elsewhere.
Did you read the cartoon?
CWTF - your point is rather meaningless due to the fact you don't get the hypocracy of Harper and his gang. We all know many MP's from all parties were not born here and/or spent a lot of time out of Canada.
ReplyDeleteSo, they pick on Ignatieff - KNB's point is well taken - the point being the "hypocracy" of the Cons. It's the same nonsense as Dion having dual citizenship - many MP's do.
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ReplyDeleteCwtf, the point is that the new Conservative ads suggest that Ignatieff isn't worthy of being PM because he spent time outside of the countryUhh, no. They say that he's not worthy of being PM because the only reason he came back to Canada was to BE PM. In other words, he doesn't care about Canada, he cares about his resume. Right or wrong, you think you could at least understand the argument you're rebutting instead of beating the crap out of that poor strawman you made.
ReplyDeleteOh Rat. I know that's what the latest spin is, but you see, the ads are so poorly executed that whatever ridiculous message was supposed to get out, hasn't.
ReplyDeleteHave you read or heard how these ads are being received? Check out letters to the editors if you're paranoid about the crazy 'left wing media'.
The message that is being taken away is precisely what I present. I created no straw man. The creative geniuses at the CPC did that all on their own.
Hmmmm....like Harper isn't worried and wants power - LOL
ReplyDeleteThe Con trolls are out in full force today - as usual, when things aren't looking good for them. They're just so obvious.
KNB
ReplyDeleteActually dim bulb there just reinforced your point, because it shows that being outside the country is very routine and cuts across partisan lines. All that says, the attack is ridiculous.
I would thank him ;)
Born elsewhere and chosing Canada is a lame defense.
ReplyDeleteIffy comparing himself to the plight of immigrants is just one more example of him being self serving by using others.
Knb,
how many on your list, born in Canada, while working out side the country,
pretended they weren't Canadian?
''it's your American just as much as it is mine''
He told us why he is in Canada
''as sure as I am sitting here, I will be Prime Minister'....
Karen, your argument would have made more sense if you compared Iggy to Dianne Haskett - but then again, it would not have been a compliment.
ReplyDelete(and make more sense to Rural).
I don't agree with Rat. Every ad emphasizes being out of the country for 34 years (presumably his 27 years plus his grad school days). This point is supposed to be an attack in itself.
ReplyDeleteWilson, don't be so provincial. It's not uncommon to speak to an audience of a country and assume that stance.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, I listened to a report of what is happening in the British parliament tonight and our reporter, a Canadian, used the term we or our.
Pretend is a game played by children...actually Harper is really good at it...'sweater man'and all.
Talking about issues and trying to get an audience to sympathize with your point, Ignatieff's certainly not the first to employ that tactic.
Does it make him less able to run this country? No. It's a foolish argument.
cwtf...I can't see how. In fact, I still think you are missing the point and simply looking for a way to attack.
ReplyDeleteAre you serious about raising the bar in this country or not?
And if you are going to use given names...fair's fair don't you think?
Agreed anon and everyone except Harper devotees see the same thing.
ReplyDeleteKNB, sorry about using your given name -
ReplyDeleteAre you serious about raising the bar in this country or not? And you are raising the bar by saying what?
"Look here, the Conservatives have members that were born out of Canada (and some may have worked out of the country) so this is the equivalent of Iggy coming back to Canada after decades out of the country?" Get real.
The nearest equivalent would be Dianne Haskett, and I'm quite sure you don't want that comparison....
I found the Dion foreigner taunts to be abysmally stupid, yet you feel it's correct to say "but the Connies have MP born outside of Canada"... ignoring that the Liberals have just as many...
Iggy, for all intents and purposes came back for political aspirations, there is nothing that denotes a greater good or cause. It's foolish to pretend otherwise.
No. What I'm saying is that they are diminishing their own while trying to diminish Ignatieff...and they don't seem to realise it.
ReplyDeletePolitical aspirations in and of themselves are nothing to decry.
If the party and Ignatieff for that matter, felt he had something to offer, what's wrong with that?
Aspirations are suddenly something that is bad? What foolishness.
Having no aspirations is what has us in trouble, imo.
It's really hard to take someone like Wilson seriously when they continue to use grammar school name calling. Like Iffy is just so clever....sigh....
ReplyDeleteAgreed Sandi. If you wander over to the BT's, there are many such school yard taunts used regularly.
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't just detract from a rational discussion, it excludes it completely.