tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post1007453606112244279..comments2023-08-01T04:17:03.628-04:00Comments on Liberal Arts and Minds: Fiction Posing as FactKarenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-50031054846939607442009-12-14T01:37:21.273-05:002009-12-14T01:37:21.273-05:00CanadianSense said...
Gayle,
Which has w...CanadianSense said...<br /><br /> Gayle,<br /><br /> <i> Which has what, exactly, to do with my comment again?<br /><br /> Oh yeah, absolutely nothing.<br /><br /> Maybe you should re-read the comment. I am sure you can figure that one out all by yourself.</i><br /><br /><br /> Didn't take you long to figure out how to handle Gayle's favorite techniques of obfuscation and misdirection (with the odd little semantic game thrown in). Kudos to you...Fred from BChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12914558903316825761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-41795315433434483982009-12-14T01:30:27.678-05:002009-12-14T01:30:27.678-05:00penlan said...
And so, once again, ConSense, ...penlan said...<br /><br /> <i> And so, once again, ConSense, & now Fred, have hi-jacked this thread/post, just as planned. Pointing fingers, drawing away, bit by bit, from the point/topic of this post.<br /><br /> They don't deserve responses to their comments.</i><br /><br /><br /> Well, I can't speak for CS, but I know I was first drawn here by your good friend Gayle trolling the Blogging Tories. She seems to like picking fights, but invariably runs away when she starts getting smacked around (a hint: try to pick places to troll where the regulars aren't smarter than you). <br /><br /> But no one ever needs to 'hi-jack' any threads here anyway, do they?. All they really need to do is point out a flaw or two in your reasoning, and you and your kind will quickly jump to the personal attacks anyway. In the beginning, I *did* try reasoning with you girls...it was a wasted effort...Fred from BChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12914558903316825761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-38482262527965410902009-12-14T01:14:05.107-05:002009-12-14T01:14:05.107-05:00I'll handle my blog as I see fit and need no a...<i>I'll handle my blog as I see fit and need no advice from a condescending commenter such as yourself....honey</i><br /><br /><br /> I think you can use all the advice you can get, honey. Your little 'embellishments' to the truth are embarrassingly inept as best, borderline actionable at worst; you wouldn't be the first blogger sued for libel in recent months, would you? Be careful.<br /><br /><br /><i>Your tone and choice of words is pretty revealing.</i><br /><br /><br /> Sadly, that's true. I can scarcely hide my contempt for people like you at the best of times. But I do try...;)Fred from BChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12914558903316825761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-30964313024893233702009-12-08T15:52:25.104-05:002009-12-08T15:52:25.104-05:00Oops, my last post should of ended that the Cons a...Oops, my last post should of ended that the Cons and their supporters continual denying make their stories appear fictional and blatant lies and they are running around scared trying to cover up the real truth again.<br /><br />Anon, 10:06 Am; Pearson's denial sounds more like a non-denial. You know what? Nobody cares what you think. This man has a lot more credibility in his little finger then that of the whole Harper government and his lame brain supporters who need to grow up and face reality. Persichilli is not a journalist but a mere opinion writer that is no better than you or I. If you believe other wise, your denser than I previously thought.mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07878825121729826425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-72041609127427607212009-12-08T15:39:54.483-05:002009-12-08T15:39:54.483-05:00There is a lot of fiction posing as fact in the G&...There is a lot of fiction posing as fact in the G&M and on TV. IN general all the media are guilty of that name. The problem is that gullible people like the Harpercrits believe that garbage. Also those who never read or watch the news believe their CRAP.<br /><br />Sorry ! I call it like I see it. Sugar coating it doesn't make it truth and denying it to much only makes those look guiltymariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07878825121729826425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-13148832738719106962009-12-08T15:13:34.979-05:002009-12-08T15:13:34.979-05:00Gayle,
Which has what, exactly, to do with my com...Gayle,<br /><br />Which has what, exactly, to do with my comment again?<br /><br />Oh yeah, absolutely nothing. <br /><br />Maybe you should re-read the comment. I am sure you can figure that one out all by yourself.CanadianSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010880162544507668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-14494460261917124982009-12-08T15:07:54.294-05:002009-12-08T15:07:54.294-05:00Thanks for that CS. Those are some fine comments o...Thanks for that CS. Those are some fine comments of mine. <br /><br />So, do you have anything to say about the Globe editorial, the former ambassadors or the NDP's call for MacKay to resign? Or are you still trying to pretend the internal dealings of the LPC are more important to people.Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112657859825911939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-46497370333022120042009-12-08T14:52:06.732-05:002009-12-08T14:52:06.732-05:00Gayle,
If things were all black and white, I woul...Gayle,<br /><br />If things were all black and white, I would answer according to your dictates.<br /><br />But they aren't. I suspect you know that, which is why you demand an answer without an explanantion. Sorry, but you do not get to set the rules. You are <br /><br />not seeking a real discussion and I am not interested in letting you dictate terms of any argument.<br /><br />Shorter answer - because you really really want it to be true.<br /><br />(Where did you get the script from?)CanadianSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010880162544507668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-20880938955882009452009-12-08T12:51:27.796-05:002009-12-08T12:51:27.796-05:00Very familiar. They are my words.
Not sure why y...Very familiar. They are my words. <br /><br />Not sure why you are posting them, though they are generally applicable to you. I just never realized you had such good insight. Maybe I underestimated you. <br /><br />Oh well, now that you have admitted you have a problem, the next step is to change. Staying on point might be a good start. <br /><br />By the way, while it could be flattering that you seem to invest so much time running around the internet counting my posts and cutting and pasting from them for your own use, I cannot help but think you must surely have better things to do than obsess over me. Just something to think about. <br /><br />Meanwhile, the coup story has all but disappeared from the media webstes. Now they are all talking about all those former ambassadors who are speaking out against the government's treatment of Richard Colvin.Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112657859825911939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-29760936767660115972009-12-08T12:42:03.245-05:002009-12-08T12:42:03.245-05:00Gayle,
ha ha,
I have tried to explain this to yo...Gayle,<br /><br />ha ha,<br /><br />I have tried to explain this to you many times. People who resort to personal attacks, without anything else, demonstrate they know they have no real response to the argument.<br /><br />I do not care about people who insult me. I simply point it out when they use the insult in a lame attempt to cover up the fact they have nothing else to say.<br />(Familiar?)CanadianSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010880162544507668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-59436674885186204452009-12-08T12:21:31.880-05:002009-12-08T12:21:31.880-05:00Yes, of course, this is all about me. How could I ...Yes, of course, this is all about me. How could I forget?<br /><br /><br />Let me know when you want a serious discussion about the issues CS. Until then, your little habit of pretending I said something I never said is all just noise...<br /><br />By the way, today the Edmonton Journal had yet another story about how all the facts coming out are proving MacKay has been lying. Not one mention of liberal dissenters and a rumoured coup though. <br /><br />Hey, did you like the editorial in the Globe today???<br /><br />The biggest difference between us is not that I am coherent and you are not (though that is a big difference). It's that the facts are on my side.Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112657859825911939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-81641841980286971682009-12-08T11:16:11.498-05:002009-12-08T11:16:11.498-05:00Gayle,
ha ha
This Post is about correcting an &quo...Gayle,<br />ha ha<br />This Post is about correcting an "opinion" piece from a reporter using second hand information and KNB offering his version.<br /><br />You than smear everyone including yourself and suggest we are<br /><br />-"most partisan and rabid of political followers".<br /><br />2. the CPC conspiracy to use the reporter to write a "little scandal" and finish off by reminding everyone this is about distracting us about torture (you forgot to use allegations btw)<br /><br />Great off topic and smear job Gayle. I have lost count on Lib blogs and Blogging Tories you are over 30 posts on this gossip article you indentified as a "little scandal"?<br /><br />ha ha ha?<br /><br />Impressive feat.<br /><br />The contrarian views agree with the reporter and gave supporting reasons for KNB that's it.CanadianSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010880162544507668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-16501654183678374602009-12-08T10:38:09.063-05:002009-12-08T10:38:09.063-05:00penlan - I do not think either has hijacked this p...penlan - I do not think either has hijacked this post at all. Non-sensical and completely off topic comments can be posted without the rest of us forgetting what this is all about.<br /><br />And as for the topic at hand, it has made barely a ripple and has probably gone by unnoticed by all but the most partisan and rabid of political followers. I think Persichilli has had his wrist slapped. No one expects all members of the liberal party to be happy right now, but it would be suicide to plan a coup, and I do not think most people think the liberal party is suicidal.<br /><br />No, this was a little scandal the CPC hoped would divert our attention from allegations they were complicit in torture. <br /><br />I must say the LPC has to keep their soap opera out of the news. I know their poll numbers are low but right now I think it is in their best interest to lie low and force the media to concentrate on Harper. Eventually these stories about lies, and deficits, and overly partisan nastiness chips away at them. When that happens the LPC better be ready to start positioning themselves as a government in waiting.Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112657859825911939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-28622920058710134612009-12-08T09:17:22.746-05:002009-12-08T09:17:22.746-05:00Penlan,
the left cherry picking of facts, ignorin...Penlan,<br /><br />the left cherry picking of facts, ignoring "gossip" for years and react when one reporter names names.<br /><br />Don Martin the LPOC best cheerleader defends Libs on a regular basis and uses "unnamed" sources on a regular basis. Many reporters do.<br /><br />KNB has decided to single out a reporter who wrote a tabloid style piece.<br /><br />Asking him and others what is shocking of what was reported?<br /><br />Apparently the smear and insult strategy by yourself and others is the reflex response.CanadianSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010880162544507668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-31735160080676665062009-12-08T09:08:27.994-05:002009-12-08T09:08:27.994-05:00And so, once again, ConSense, & now Fred, have...And so, once again, ConSense, & now Fred, have hi-jacked this thread/post, just as planned. Pointing fingers, drawing away, bit by bit, from the point/topic of this post.<br /><br />They don't deserve responses to their comments.penlanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07830912393649649485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-85169159331966595752009-12-08T08:39:28.654-05:002009-12-08T08:39:28.654-05:00Fred, I'm happy to have a conversation if the ...Fred, I'm happy to have a conversation if the points being made are intelligent.<br /><br />You're quite when you infer that I don't suffer fools gladly.<br /><br />I'll handle my blog as I see fit and need no advice from a condescending commenter such as yourself....<i>honey</i><br /><br />Your tone and choice of words is pretty revealing.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-67033909874802458892009-12-08T06:12:24.655-05:002009-12-08T06:12:24.655-05:00Gayle,
Ha ha ha.
Which has what, exactly, to do ...Gayle, <br />Ha ha ha.<br /><br />Which has what, exactly, to do with my comment again?<br /><br />Oh yeah, absolutely nothing.<br /><br />Maybe you should re-read the comment. I am sure you can figure that one out all by yourself.CanadianSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010880162544507668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-68532605306487880262009-12-08T00:22:17.684-05:002009-12-08T00:22:17.684-05:00Oh CS - when faced with the folly of your own posi...Oh CS - when faced with the folly of your own position, you resort to cutting and pasting my quotes from another blog?<br /><br />It is to laugh. And believe me, I am laughing.Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112657859825911939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-36816945310888516722009-12-07T22:54:43.045-05:002009-12-07T22:54:43.045-05:00KNB said...
Canadian (non)Sense, you are usin...KNB said...<br /><br /> <i> Canadian (non)Sense, you are using a Perschelli tack to get your point across.<br /><br /> You chose the wrong forum my friend.<br /><br /> Wanna spin this nonsense? Go to your friendlies. This space is about debunking the spin you are trying to weave.</i><br /><br /><br /> It's also about taking cheap shots at anything and everything conservative, and you have no qualms at all about making unsubstantiated accusations or indulging in character assassination or petty slander, do you? ANYTHING that shows the Conservatives in a bad light (real or imagined) is just fine with you.<br /><br /> The problem is, you choose to proudly share your Liberal bias with others of your ilk by blogging about it, and that in turn exposes you to people like me who regard most of your efforts as either mildly amusing or slightly annoying...until you get all bitchy the way you just did. That's just like waving a red flag in front of a bull, honey...<br /><br /> If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Or take your blog private, or try to be less obnoxious to people with different viewpoints (you know, show some of that 'progressive' compassion and tolerance your kind keep bragging about).Fred from BChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12914558903316825761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-5091638152286108482009-12-07T21:48:04.039-05:002009-12-07T21:48:04.039-05:00Gayle,
You usually go through an argument. It is ...Gayle,<br /><br />You usually go through an argument. It is just that what you believe is the right thing to do does not make it the right thing to do.<br /><br />Which has what, exactly, to do with my comment again?<br /><br />Oh yeah, absolutely nothing. <br /><br />Maybe you should re-read the comment. I am sure you can figure that one out all by yourself.CanadianSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010880162544507668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-8464058029536136912009-12-07T21:32:25.195-05:002009-12-07T21:32:25.195-05:00Angelo must be sued ..it is an unbelivable lie ...Angelo must be sued ..it is an unbelivable lie a meanspirited Concocted story aimed to destroy characters and liberals generally. Should not be tolerated.Damehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15548065189088501935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-58305851985197440032009-12-07T20:42:14.011-05:002009-12-07T20:42:14.011-05:00"the named MP's can seek a legal remedy f..."the named MP's can seek a legal remedy from the alleged "libel" by the Toronto Star.<br /><br />Have you seen the retraction or apology from the Toronto Star?<br /><br />Until WE do, many of us will go with the journalist's version."<br /><br />Ha ha ha.<br /><br />I guess you will have to acknowledge those generals were lying, and Colvin was telling the truth.<br /><br />Unless, of course, the generals decide to sue Colvin...<br /><br />Or maybe, you might want to accept that not every lie is going to result in a lawsuit. That maybe, just maybe, every lie and misquote is not actionable, or the expenses involved with such an action verses the damages that may be awarded mean that lawsuit is not worth your while. And maybe, the mere fact that someone does not choose to sue over every single lie that is printed in the paper does not magically make that lie come true.<br /><br />The fact you have to resort to such a weak position should be a clue that you might want to reassess your argument.Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112657859825911939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-16473656911253021402009-12-07T11:29:42.566-05:002009-12-07T11:29:42.566-05:00Update: Just heard Persichilli on radio
He was no...Update: Just heard Persichilli on radio<br /><br />He was <i>not</i> there. He did <i>not</i> verify the quotes or contact anyone involved. <br /><br />He received his story second hand (maybe 3rd) and stands by his source.<br /><br />He read Pearson's rebuttal and twisted it to fit his article.<br /><br />IMO, this journo has completely discredited himself and practices the shoddiest form of journalism.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-18281449086437410162009-12-07T10:36:42.950-05:002009-12-07T10:36:42.950-05:00Gayle,
"Maybe you should re-read the comment...Gayle,<br /><br />"Maybe you should re-read the comment. I am sure you can figure that one out all by yourself." <br /><br />the named MP's can seek a legal remedy from the alleged "libel" by the Toronto Star.<br /><br />Have you seen the retraction or apology from the Toronto Star?<br /><br />Until WE do, many of us will go with the journalist's version.<br /><br />Best of luck.<br /><br />Don't forget to bring up the torture allegations next time.CanadianSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010880162544507668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-72841521317470296052009-12-07T10:13:29.473-05:002009-12-07T10:13:29.473-05:00"Nothing that was "quoted" was shoc..."Nothing that was "quoted" was shocking or unbelievable."<br /><br />Except that the people who were quoted says they did not say it. But don't let those inconvenient facts get in the way...Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112657859825911939noreply@blogger.com