tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post2976335637021607889..comments2023-08-01T04:17:03.628-04:00Comments on Liberal Arts and Minds: RefreshingKarenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-64667770920292419942007-10-10T01:29:00.000-04:002007-10-10T01:29:00.000-04:00To requote the article:What helped Mr. Trudeau get...To requote the article:<BR/><BR/><I/>What helped Mr. Trudeau get good press in his day was the liberal bias of the media. </I><BR/><BR/>I don't see any of your spin about the media actually representing the direction of the country or any other such BS you attribute to it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-14235840156648233302007-10-09T23:59:00.000-04:002007-10-09T23:59:00.000-04:00Anon, get over yourself.Was the media more liberal...Anon, get over yourself.<BR/><BR/>Was the media more liberal in the past or was it naturally more reflective of the direction of the country?<BR/><BR/>That direction hasn't changed, but ownership of the media has. The more they push, and push they do, the less receptive they will find their audience.<BR/><BR/>The masters of their own demise.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-22649439260177339712007-10-09T20:51:00.000-04:002007-10-09T20:51:00.000-04:00No, if you've read this blog, Lawrence didn't sway...<I/>No, if you've read this blog, Lawrence didn't sway me, he simply said what I've been saying for some time.</I><BR/><BR/>Have you been saying that for years there used to be a liberal media bias and now the pendulum has swung and it is becoming a conservative media bias? That is what Lawrence said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-62424641882837228922007-10-09T19:58:00.000-04:002007-10-09T19:58:00.000-04:00Anon (of course): yet one left-leaning journalist ...Anon (of course): <I>yet one left-leaning journalist has said there is currently a right-leaning bias in the media, and you buy the premise 100 percent</I><BR/><BR/>No, if you've read this blog, Lawrence didn't sway me, he simply said what I've been saying for some time.<BR/><BR/>It's obvious and to not see it, is to be obtuse.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-10846694663787178882007-10-09T19:53:00.000-04:002007-10-09T19:53:00.000-04:00The political views of individual journalists is n...The political views of individual journalists is not really relevant any more because they all work for large corporate entities. And large corporate entities are generally conservative in bent. There are exceptions but they are few.<BR/><BR/>The managers of those large corporate entities are the ones that hire the publishers and the editors/news directors of news organizations and they are the ones that give them their marching orders. Some like the Aspers are blatant about it while others are more circumspect about it.<BR/><BR/>It is the editors/news directors who decide whether to approve a particular angle on a story submitted by the working reporter and if that reporter wants to keep his job he will make the editors happy. And so it goes up the line.ottlibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695135535019042279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-14674607666637853582007-10-09T15:22:00.000-04:002007-10-09T15:22:00.000-04:00Scotian, good to see you (as a liberal) will have ...Scotian, good to see you (as a liberal) will have no truck in believing that the media is inherently liberal biased...<BR/><BR/>As a small c conservative, i can only ascribe that position to not being able to see the forest for the trees..<BR/><BR/>In all the years growing up, i never saw my views reflected in the mainstream media, in fact it was decades of anti- conservative screeds, when they were not blowing smoke up the rear end of whichever deity of the liberal party was in favour that year..<BR/><BR/>Do you also reject as arguement the statements from editors and reporters that they do have an inate bias? I try to be fairly objective when it comes to these things, but it is as patently absurd to say there is no liberal bias in the media as it is for one of their biggest boosters to say there is now a conservative bias<BR/><BR/>Absolute rubbish.Next time you see Adrienne Clarkson or Michelle Jean (not to mention the myriad of liberal biased reporters elected to plum patronage positions..)ask them if they feel their positions were not in part granted to them as reward for years of towing the party line?KURSKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00286593811913745188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-52524235250820673432007-10-09T15:18:00.000-04:002007-10-09T15:18:00.000-04:00Other than in your line "In my mind, whenever ther...Other than in your line "In my mind, whenever there is absolute bias on any side, 'we the people' lose", I don't see you coming clean on the years of Liberal media bias that this country has endured. Are you accepting Lawrence's admission that the media in the past has been liberally biased? Whenever a Right-wing poster made mention in these blogs of liberal bias on the CBC or elsewhere, they were met by cries of "Oh, the old liberal-media bias song and dance again. Why don't you give it a break..." Yet one left-leaning journalist has said there is currently a right-leaning bias in the media, and you buy the premise 100 percent. But you can't take one half of the premise without the other, which means I guess you agree we have had a liberal media bias for the last many years. How about a line in your post saying "Hey Rightoids, I see what you have been talking about all this time. You weren't crazy after all."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-58711098366606327632007-10-09T10:03:00.000-04:002007-10-09T10:03:00.000-04:00Good catch KNB, I'm glad I made a quick stop into ...Good catch KNB, I'm glad I made a quick stop into the online world today before my errands force me away from my computer. As you know I have been most contemptuous of the liberal media myth and refuse to debate anyone that professes a belief in it no matter how rational they may sound otherwise because anyone believing in that myth is only going to accept info from politically approved sources and dispute anything that disagrees with their views in the MSM. After all, if one cannot agree on the facts and whether things are facts in the first place meaningful dialogue becomes inherently difficult to impossible depending on how serious the faith in the myth is.<BR/><BR/>Hopefully I'll be able to check back on this later today/evening. Meanwhile though I am very gratified to hear you plan on researching this issue in such detail, I am sure I will find much worthy of using for source material.Scotianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06284856315992405261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-33762919434233369212007-10-08T22:50:00.000-04:002007-10-08T22:50:00.000-04:00You do make me laugh, in the very best way Steve.You do make me laugh, in the very best way Steve.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-26726324855210659282007-10-08T22:42:00.000-04:002007-10-08T22:42:00.000-04:00Don't mind the mess ;)Don't mind the mess ;)Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-22871744738183530532007-10-08T21:13:00.000-04:002007-10-08T21:13:00.000-04:00Thanks Steve...I'm just about to wander over to yo...Thanks Steve...I'm just about to wander over to your place.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-34022275232132417572007-10-08T21:12:00.000-04:002007-10-08T21:12:00.000-04:00Sassy, I thought I saw that story yesterday, but I...Sassy, I thought I saw that story yesterday, but I'm with you.<BR/><BR/>That coupled with the furor in the the Environment group (gov't), tells me something.<BR/><BR/>I saved the articles and more to come. Call me nut's, but I want to be honest about this stuff, so I research it, budgets and all. Tedious stuff, lol. <BR/><BR/>Good call Sassy. We'll get there.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-11656581095414050682007-10-08T21:07:00.000-04:002007-10-08T21:07:00.000-04:00Great post knb :)Great post knb :)Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-9171175616227888212007-10-08T19:31:00.000-04:002007-10-08T19:31:00.000-04:00Speaking of the press and PMSH - Diplomats face c...Speaking of the press and PMSH - <A HREF="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071008.diplomats08/BNStory/National/home" REL="nofollow">Diplomats face communications crackdown</A> from today's G&M.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com