tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post5480250067267033075..comments2023-08-01T04:17:03.628-04:00Comments on Liberal Arts and Minds: In Committee on Parliament HillKarenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-39262863913890545182007-12-01T21:24:00.000-05:002007-12-01T21:24:00.000-05:00btw Scotian, I very much appreciate your resonance...btw Scotian, I very much appreciate your resonance comment.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure I'm the one to do it, but through I hope, a dignified discussion,(though I confess my frustration shows), I hope I contribute.<BR/><BR/>That's my sole aim in doing this. <BR/><BR/>I'm a reclusive artist by nature. Putting my views out there in words is new. Visually, I am not afraid. Verbally...different story.<BR/><BR/>Life is like that, no?Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-80471170086562178552007-11-30T21:31:00.000-05:002007-11-30T21:31:00.000-05:00Gayle and Scotian...too true and it is infuriating...Gayle and Scotian...too true and it is infuriating.<BR/><BR/>I watched the committee meeting that preceeded the one I wrote on, earlier today.<BR/><BR/>4 witnesses. 2 from the con side, and Pembina and a youth coalition group.<BR/><BR/>It's obvious, so damned obvious who they are taking with them to Bali. Contrarians. Is there any doubt as to why they have not released who they are taking with them?<BR/><BR/>2 years wasted when if they had truley believed, they had a gold key.<BR/><BR/>Anyone who believes the Con's on this issue is prepared to allow future generations, to pay the price. They are prepared to allow those who are already devasted by poverty, drought and war based on resources, die.<BR/><BR/>Astonishing isn't it? The thirsty US has already made it clear. War is about ideology and needed resources. We now are following suit.<BR/><BR/>Too radical? Well, it's a larger conversation than a comment box will allow so suffice it to say, contrarians seem to have misplaced the brains they were born with.<BR/><BR/>Anon @ 3:27, Indeed. Facts do not matter to Con's. They are all about the spin and out and out lying, no more, no less. That is who is running the country.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-137703106607775412007-11-30T15:27:00.000-05:002007-11-30T15:27:00.000-05:00The Cons keep trying to make people believe that D...The Cons keep trying to make people believe that Dion was environment minister all those 13 years. He was only environment minister for 18 months - less time than Harper's been in government.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-61322191359241054582007-11-30T11:15:00.000-05:002007-11-30T11:15:00.000-05:00Gayle's point is the really infuriating one for me...Gayle's point is the really infuriating one for me. All throughout Kyoto's history while the Libs were in power it was opposed by Reform/CA and then the CPC and denounced routinely as a socialist scheme to transfer wealth under the cover of a non-existent problem called global warming. When a Lib government FINALLY puts forward real legislation to take real action written by Dion in the Martin government it is defeated before it can be enacted. Yet now the Cons are the saviors of the file and the issue? <BR/><BR/>I mean really, the amount of selective memory on this file politically is incredibly offensive. Sure, the Libs didn't get things done, but then the Libs had a fairly loud vocal opposition constantly harassing them whenever they tried to that was willing to use western alienation and the many comparisons of Kyoto to NEP to drive up regional angers making it that much more difficult for any government to push through. Now when the only opposition to Kyoto is the government it somehow claims the mantle of leadership on the file while continuing its constant pattern of weakening to preventing any real action being done, real action as defined as needed by the scientific community and not the political rhetorician community that is.<BR/><BR/>Nice post KNB, and a very relevant one. It had some resonance though given the responses it has gotten already if not as much as it deserves (at least not as of yet).Scotianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06284856315992405261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-54789976115923644462007-11-30T09:14:00.000-05:002007-11-30T09:14:00.000-05:00Chemo - we'll all need it if the environment isn't...Chemo - we'll all need it if the environment isn't cleaned up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-21099402126548334842007-11-30T01:00:00.000-05:002007-11-30T01:00:00.000-05:00The thing that really burns me is that it would be...The thing that really burns me is that it would be so much easier for the conservatives to do something positive than it was for the minority liberals, who had the conservative opposition to contend with. Harper would have unanimous support in Parliament if he went for hard targets.<BR/><BR/>But what can you expect from a party that leads through ideology.Gaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08112657859825911939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-67280590328185393712007-11-29T22:47:00.000-05:002007-11-29T22:47:00.000-05:00MoS and ottlib, indeed.How do we change that thoug...MoS and ottlib, indeed.<BR/><BR/>How do we change that though? The media is not listening <BR/><BR/>I just linked to Steve, (far and wide) who tells us that Dion is going to Bali. I think that is brilliant, but in the end we have to engage the people.<BR/><BR/>We are, unbelievably, not there yet.<BR/><BR/>Buckley's...that made me gag as you intended.<BR/><BR/>Chemo, perhaps a more accurate view.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-14124865968760303632007-11-29T21:35:00.000-05:002007-11-29T21:35:00.000-05:00More like environmental chemotherapy.More like environmental chemotherapy.ottlibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695135535019042279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-11761147066009062542007-11-29T20:37:00.000-05:002007-11-29T20:37:00.000-05:00The one thing we don't have time for any longer is...The one thing we don't have time for any longer is useless spin on global warming. We're in a window of opportunity to take effective action but it's closing, perhaps faster than we imagine. We will eventually accept solutions to the problem but they won't be the best solutions, the easiest solutions, the least painful solutions. We let those slip through our fingers twenty years ago. The sad thing is that today's best, easiest and least painful solutions are also slipping through our fingers. The longer we wait, the harsher the medicine we'll have to swallow. Think environmental Buckley's.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.com