tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post8104758459672011376..comments2023-08-01T04:17:03.628-04:00Comments on Liberal Arts and Minds: RightsKarenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-7754988737623101702009-04-04T16:00:00.000-04:002009-04-04T16:00:00.000-04:00Grow up Fred.Grow up Fred.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-4080061209494453262009-04-04T15:37:00.000-04:002009-04-04T15:37:00.000-04:00>All I know right now is that we must >pay a...>All I know right now is that we must >pay attention and not allow this to<BR/>>go unnoticed or unremarked on.<BR/><BR/><BR/> What you mean by that, of course, is that you must find a way to blame it all on Prime Minister Stephen Harper, right?FredfromBCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-83992902187365429092009-04-03T13:26:00.000-04:002009-04-03T13:26:00.000-04:00RuralSandi:"Right....being allowed to vote is alot...RuralSandi:<BR/><BR/>"Right....being allowed to vote is alot different than permission to rape and abuse women."<BR/><BR/>Yes I know Sandi,where did I imply that it's the same? I was just giving an example of democracy that's all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-89797114051002368492009-04-03T11:47:00.000-04:002009-04-03T11:47:00.000-04:00Right....being allowed to vote is alot different t...Right....being allowed to vote is alot different than permission to rape and abuse women.RuralSandihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552973218865121867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-38927680335491875562009-04-03T08:29:00.000-04:002009-04-03T08:29:00.000-04:00"The facts surrounding this particular law ar..."The facts surrounding this particular law are strange. It's purported to be driven by either Shi'a members of parliament or Karzai supporters looking to gain the vote of the Hazara Shi'a, which is a tiny minority in the country. Aside from being a minority, they have been one of the most oppressed groups both under the Soviets and the Taliban, so I really don't get this at all. Furthermore, it's been said that the law would only apply to Shi'a women."<BR/><BR/>What came to mind for me is that if the Hazara Shi'a have been the most oppressed, as they are such a small minority, then they may be thirsting to have some power of some kind & this is their only way of getting some. People who are terribly oppressed often will lash out in inappropriate ways to so-called "fight back". It's all psychological, as you know. It's disgusting what is going on here.<BR/><BR/>And as far as it only affecting Shi'a women it may be because the other factions would never stand for it as they are larger & there would be more of an uprising with the women.<BR/><BR/>As far as Day goes it does sound like he knew at the time he was in Afghanistan, no matter the wording/phrasing. If that is true then why did he keep quiet about it here? The Cons have been too quiet for too long on anything that has been going on in Afghanistan. Think torture & their still ongoing push to stop the commission looking into it from going forward.<BR/><BR/>Interestingly on CBC Newsworld this morning on the Your Turn segment a viewer wrote in saying that here in Canada the 1st time there was ever a court case involving marital rape was in 1982 & then a law was enacted in 1983 to make it a crime. That wasn't so long ago & was a surprise to me. And we are democratic & advanced? It makes us look like we were living in the Dark Ages on this one for far too long. Which we were.<BR/><BR/>Excellent post!penlanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07830912393649649485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-36990533703399185152009-04-02T23:13:00.000-04:002009-04-02T23:13:00.000-04:00If there is a glimmer of hope in Afghanistan is th...If there is a glimmer of hope in Afghanistan is that their democracy if we can call it that is just starting. Take our country for example. Our democracy is much older and yet women weren't even considered as a person or even have the right to vote as early as the 40's. I know that this is very little consolation to the Afghan women living in Afghanistan today. It's just a shame that in the 21'st century we still have to talk about this. <BR/><BR/>"Did you know that at the time the Taliban took over in Afghanistan, most of the world turned a blind eye? Two high profile people spoke out. Hillary Clinton and Lloyd Axworthy."<BR/><BR/>Yes I know but we all saw where that led us unfortunately. The west should take lesson from it.<BR/><BR/>"Consider how we feud in this country. On this blog even. Consider me trying to persuade you that Liberalism is a much better scenario for this country than Conservatism. We don't get very far do we?" <BR/><BR/>You know in Canada we sometimes take our freedoms for granted. Not to change the subject,but we have a freedom where we can choose the people who we want to lead us by voting.Unfortunately some us in this country don't take this seriously it's just too bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-5259929837930558262009-04-02T22:48:00.000-04:002009-04-02T22:48:00.000-04:00It's exceptionally complex Right. Consider how we ...It's exceptionally complex Right. <BR/><BR/>Consider how we feud in this country. On this blog even. Consider me trying to persuade you that Liberalism is a much better scenario for this country than Conservatism. We don't get very far do we?<BR/><BR/>Take that to Afghanistan and consider all the different players and belief systems, religious and otherwise.<BR/><BR/>It's really too complex to draw even my simplistic analogy, but I think you get my meaning.<BR/><BR/>At this point, I'm just not sure. If Human Rights was at the core of their Constitution and everything else had to be based on that, they'd at least have a running chance I guess, no matter how contrary some laws may seem to Western eyes.<BR/><BR/>All I know right now is that we must pay attention and not allow this to go unnoticed or unremarked on.<BR/><BR/>Did you know that at the time the Taliban took over in Afghanistan, most of the world turned a blind eye? Two high profile people spoke out. Hillary Clinton and Lloyd Axworthy.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04291881352139075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30594727.post-47035983163328232992009-04-02T22:11:00.000-04:002009-04-02T22:11:00.000-04:00KNB I also hope that this law is never enacted. Bu...KNB I also hope that this law is never enacted. But unfortunately I think if this is true the damage has been whether or not this idiotic law becomes law. Here is my reason. There are people in their parliament that actually believes in this stupid law. Because even if this law isn't enacted. You can bet that sometime in the near future it will come up again.<BR/><BR/>Unless we(the west)can change the mentality of some of those people on the necessity of human rights, human values. It will one day become law of the land.<BR/><BR/>When I saw this story I too started to doubt the mission "what are we fighting for in Afghanistan",but then I stopped and said to myself would the "Afghan women be better off if NATO pulled it's troops from the war torn country?" The answer to this in my opinion is "no." <BR/><BR/>I'm not so sure that sanctions would work. They are already one if not the poorest country on the planet.I really don't know what could be done to change their mentality here. What do you think KNB?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com