Sunday, September 09, 2007

Bid Hooroo to Our Credibility

Harper may think he's fooling Canadians and the rest of the world, but finally someone has called him on his hypocrisy...on a world stage no less.

The rebuke came as Canada endorsed a new consensus that was immediately blasted for undermining the international climate-change agreement.
Chinese President Hu Jintao upstaged the leaders' official declaration on climate change by lashing out at wealthy nations for bailing out on their legal obligation to help the developing world cope with global warming and acquire technologies to reduce emissions of heat-trapping gases.


All I can say is it's about time. All the headlines, claiming the great success of the summit, are of course ridiculous and the media, who are eating it up, are embarrassing. I do not know how this right wing gang have convinced some, that their plan to do nothing qualifies as a plan at all, but it would appear that some are willing to buy what they are selling. Not everyone though:

He (President Hu Jintao) said China was willing to do its share, but it didn't have the capacity to do as much as its richer counterparts.
"Developed countries should face their historical responsibility and their current high per capita emissions (and) strictly abide by their emission reduction targets set forth in the Kyoto Protocol," Hu told Harper and the other leaders at a meeting of the 21-member Asia Pacific Economic Co-operation forum.


They should "honour their commitment on making technology transfers and providing financial support to developing countries, and continue to take the lead in reducing emissions after 2012," Hu said.

Obviously that was directed at Harper.

Under Harper's leadership, Canada has become the only one out of 158 members of the international Kyoto agreement to publicly admit it would not honour the deal.

Oh, the pride! To quote a BBC commentator, "The only concrete development to come out of the summit, was the security fence around the perimeter". Someone should explain that to some of our media.

A cute aside, here's a comment about Harper's pal Bush.

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

Perhaps a copy of the Australian article should be sent to all our pathetic MSM journalists.

Boring - so, so true.

Steve V said...

What bothers me about the MSM, is the lack of editing. Just because Harper claims progress, "big, big steps", doesn't mean that the media should simply parrot the propaganda in their headlines. Harper speaks, the media is supposed to vet and clarify, not parrot the party line. The casual observer would be under the false impression that something was actually accomplished, when it is obvious that nothing happened, nothing AT ALL.

In the Cons defence, it is not their fault that they have figured out a strategy, wherein they just keep repeated something, relying on lazy journalism to convey their message. The strategy fails miserably if a critical eye is attached.

The Right is Where its At said...

How can anyone buy
what the Chinese President Hu Jintao say's he is not credible here
are a few examples:

1) A terrible human rights record.
2) Not a week goes by
that there isn't some
kind of recall from China.

Also this:

He (President Hu Jintao) said China was willing to do its share, but it didn't have the capacity to do as much as its richer counterparts.
"Developed countries should face their historical responsibility and their current high per capita emissions (and) strictly abide by their emission reduction targets set forth in the Kyoto Protocol,"

Now this is of course
a bunch of bull here
is why!

They have $62.5 billion
annually to spend on their military and they don't have the capacity for Kyoto? Of course this is what China's says they spend,but
since china is a closed society nothing comes
out unless their government lets it come out,you can bet the budget is much higher then that.

Then we have this
Chinese Annual Space Budget Exceeds Two Billion Dollars U.S.
of course.

You people want us to
take him seriously what
he says? Please people
give me a break!

Of course i personally
don't buy into Kyoto
I'm just making a point here.

They have so much cash
too spend but not for
Kyoto thats a laugh.

Of course its a annual
budget for space and military.

The Right is Where its At said...

correction sorry:

"Then we have this!
Chinese Annual Space Budget Exceeds Two Billion Dollars U.S.
of course.

knb said...

"Developed countries should face their historical responsibility and their current high per capita emissions (and) strictly abide by their emission reduction targets set forth in the Kyoto Protocol,"

He's right, period. We made a committment, period, and are in no position to lecture.

BTW, using your example, what is the State's excuse for doing nothing?

John, this is nothing more than protecting the oil and gas industry. We, the States, Australia have done nothing more than cave to them. It's not more complicated than that.

Steve V said...

"How can anyone buy
what the Chinese President Hu Jintao say's he is not credible here"

But, you loonies try to tell us the scientists aren't credible either. Actually, anyone who dares suggest that Harper is a fraud is vilified.

George said...

"... and providing financial support to developing countries ..." That is what it boils down to - money. They are afraid that now they will have to use their own money to fight pollution.

I agree totally with "The Right is Where its At". It was a money grab for China, Russia, India and other polluting countries. China has no desire to change - as illustrated by their building coal-operated power plants.

"We made a committment, period, and are in no position to lecture." It was DeYawn - who knew he couldn't even get close to meeting the committments that signed it - he did not speak for me or a majority of Canadians. At least the Conservative government is fighting pollution - which effects GHG output. More than DeYawn even considered. I think the RAG Party is in for some interesting time in the next election - hopefully soon. {Red And Green = RAG Party}

The Right is Where its At said...

KNB

"He's right, period. We made a committment, period, and are in no position to lecture."

The only reason china is lecturing us is,because
we criticize China on
their human rights
everytime we have a chance rightfully so!
Its only payback for them to us nothing more.


"John, this is nothing more than protecting the oil and gas industry. We, the States, Australia have done nothing more than cave to them. It's not more complicated than that."

Its getting a little boring with the left
about BIG oil.

Its big oil that gives
thousands of Canadian
families a great living!

Its big oil that gives
our government $$$ billions of dollars.

Is this the reason why thee Australian PM (John Howard)disagrees with the Kyoto accord?
Please o.k.

The Right is Where its At said...

George these countries China, Russia, and India
they all say that they don't have the cash.Yet
every single of these countries spends huge
amount cash on military. Not just that, they all have nuclear weapons imagine that and they say that they can't afford Kyoto and they have the guts to criticize us what a laugh!!Please!

knb said...

Its getting a little boring with the left
about BIG oil.


Truth can be boring sometimes. You can hold your opinion, it's your right, but you ignore fact.

I'm not talking "conspiracy", I'm speaking to the lobbying and it's strength. I don't subscribe to conspiracy. I am exposed enough to know that lobbyist's hold tremendous sway and to be honest, I don't exclude the Liberal's from that.

Dion I do, he's a different breed, but I wouldn't be reluctant to suggest that the Lib's did little on the file, because of it.

It must be noted that Dion was in that job for only 18 months and spent his time developing plans, good ones, that the con's quashed and he had to fight like hell for it in cabinet.

Converesly, Harper has had 20 months and has done sweet nothing, twice.

Howard...oh yeah, you should read up on this guy's past and ideology a bit. His biggest claim to fame is loving Bush, which didn't turn out so well.

Funny,(not), Harper is backing the guy's with the most terrible popularity ratings...Bush and Howard. Love it.

The Right is Where its At said...

KNB i still can't understand how you can support an accord like Kyoto. When countries
like China, Russia, and India are excluded for
the first part of thee
accord. They are the top polluters on the planet. Also let me remind you that their
human rights are also terrible.

Why do we have to pay the price for the first
part of Kyoto for them?

They do have the cash just look at how much
China spends in space,
and these 3 countries
spend on their military.

It tells me that they do have the cash they just don't want to spend it.

Amazing to me!!

knb said...

Because we industrialised and caused the problem, before them.

Kyoto was a framework, one that could have worked had Harper not opposed it. Maybe not met all targets, but a framework, that matters to me more.

Human rights? Take a look at this country my friend. Nothing, I agree, on the scale of China and others, but honestly, how we have treated our Aboriginal community, is shameful. the homeless are left defenceless and most got there due to government and how we've been so consumed by Muslims and our collective reation, is shameful, imo.

We have no right to chastise any country, until we get our house in order, as it relates to rights and responsibility.

Where Canada usually excels in the world, is leading by example. In both of your examples, we are not leading.

There is strength in example, as any parent will tell you. You can't tell your kid's not to smoke, if you do, no matter how much you tell them about the dangers. They either don't believe you, or they think you don't know what you are talking about.

That is what Canada is putting out there and unless you're an idiot, as you suggest China is being, it's beyond obvious.

It's time we looked at what we are doing. "Do as I say, not as I do", was gone with my grandparents...and I'm older than you.

No one buy's it, other than sadly, some of us at home. I know we're smarter than that and those who aren't, be left behind.

The Right is Where its At said...

KNB i don't agree but not at all these countries are trying to take advantage of us.They are the biggest polluters today
they are the ones who should be paying the
price for it,because they do have the cash.

About our human rights
in this country its much better then most countries on the planet,yes we are leaders in this.Now you
want perfection it will never happen,because perfection doesn't exist.

The Kyoto accord is flawed when we have the biggest emitters of co2's not involved in
the first part of the deal its a joke.

What we are doing as
a country we are doing just fine thank you very much.

We help peoples and countries who need
our help has much has we can for a small country that we are.
But we have limits what
we can do.