Thursday, August 23, 2007

Les Provocateurs...the Truth?

Guess what, the one's who were called whacko's were right.

Gives me the creeps to be honest. Democracy? Staged democracy, scripted democracy, democracy by illusion? Please, this is not democracy.

Do not come here and tell me it's necessary in this "age of terra".

You either believe in democracy or you don't.

I won't slag the con's, because I don't know how long it's been going on. It's wrong in any case...it's not democracy.

12 comments:

Johnny said...

KNB:

First this is democracy police officers go undercover all the time! Its thee only way to find the trouble makers.Why don't you talk about the people who went there with mask on! With the sole purpose to create havoc,or the people who threw billiard balls or the nut who set the fire in the middle of the street next your going to tell me that thee S.Q. is responsible for this right? Please come on!! I mean if they demonstrate peacefully they wont need to cover their faces now would they? I'll repeat this is democracy sorry to disappoint you KNB.
Its been going on for ever!! Yes i do believe
democracy. People were able to demonstrate peacefully. Thank God it
was thee S.Q. can you imagine if it were the
R.C.M.P. everyone on the left would be blasting Harper and the Conservative for it. I'm sure there will still be people who are going to find a way to blast Harper even if the S.Q.
is under Quebec's control.

Cherniak_WTF said...

Johnny, I guess you don't know the difference between "agent provateur" and normal police work.
The trouble markers in this case were the police who tried to discredit normal Canadians.

Of course, the likes of you like would like a police state.

Cherniak_WTF said...

Also, the SQ and RCMP had to work closely during this summit - I'd like to know who was the fuckup that approve the agents...

Johnny said...

Cherniak_WTF :

"Johnny, I guess you don't know the difference between "agent provateur" and normal police work." Cherniak_WTF i give-up your the expert in police work chuckle.;)

"Of course, the likes of you like would like a police state."

Yep i surrender you have me I want a police state in fact i want the government to shut down all the blogs close down all the media. Just like
Hugo Chavez has done in
Venezuela congrats you discovered my secrete agenda chuckle. Secrete agenda is very popular these days with the left. You know i would laugh if this statement wasn't so stupid worse i think you really believe it. I
shouldn't even respond to it.;)

knb said...

c_wtf, exactly! That is the big question and though the S.Q. came out with this statement, there is still much we don't know.

Both forces have bad rep's. How to place trust in either is tough, rather, it just became tougher.

Police state indeed. I'm not connecting the dots on how the right believes that will gain them favour, though I do think that motive is real. 67 flipping per cent of Canadian's do not agree. Why go forward with this crap?

What's scarey, is that people aren't listening.

knb said...

Think carefully now John. You just said, with some relief, that this was the SQ and not the RCMP...because that would link it to gov't. So you see the tie I presume, from RCMP to gov't. No? You're on record now and what goes on in the future, by all means, hold your stance.

As for democracy...telling people where they can demonstrate, is NOT democracy my friend. Read my post about "the handbook" a few posts down from here. They design protests in the US, just as the PMO tried to design this one. Thankfully, Canadians, thinking Canadians, disagreed.

Johnny said...

KNB:

"Think carefully now John. You just said, with some relief, that this was the SQ and not the RCMP...because that would link it to gov't. So you see the tie I presume, from RCMP to gov't. No? You're on record now and what goes on in the future, by all means, hold your stance."

Hold my stance chuckle!! I said S.Q. because the S.Q. is the one that said they had undercover agents there.
Did the R.C.M.P. have undercover agents there too i have no idea,but it doesn't change a darn thing.

Whats this crap: "67 flipping per cent of Canadian's do not agree."

The latest poll i saw
was 36% so that makes 64%
if my math is correct doesn't it?

What you think it hasn't happened under Paul Martins Liberals?

What made me laugh
was when wtf said that:
"Of course, the likes of you like would like a police state."

Anonymous said...

Why would you slag 'the cons'? It's not a federal or RCMP issue...its a surete du quebec isue. Has nothing to do with the cons. If anything, blame the liberal party in quebec. Or better yet, blame no one. Undercover cops trying to see if protestors have violent motives/plans? Heaven forbid....

Johnny said...

Anon (1:53 AM) is it
always the case. When something goes wrong,They always,the left try to blame it on Harper. I wonder when it has happened under the Liberal government if they criticized the government of the day
let me doubt that. If they could get away with it they would blame the
problems of the world on Harper. Just like they do
for the U.S.(Bush) even
though he is not my favorite person.

Anonymous said...

Oh gee, the RCMP are in charge of the "protect Bush/Harper" issue and orders to the Quebec police MUST have come from above.

Harper's snide, smart ass remark makes sense now - he knew what was going on. What a sleeze Harper is.

knb said...

Anon @1:53 I did not slag the cons.

As for the RCMP, they were charged with all the security details for the summit.

Cherniak_WTF said...

"Harper's snide, smart ass remark makes sense now - he knew what was going on. What a sleeze Harper is."
Well they did seem odd at the time.
If a riot had broken out, they would make more sense but this is only innuendo.

johnny, if it did not come from Harper why not investigate instead of this stonewalling for Day? Let's get to the bottom of this very serious travesty.